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Part 2: Untangling Pooh and PigletIT appears that some of our readers rather enjoyed the last edition of CETF, whilst of course others did not. This is always to be expected, and we are not spiritual or intellectual fascists who insist that our readers agree with everything we write _ hence our lively letters' page.There are some responses to the last CETF, which we would like to highlight, as we rather enjoyed them, and we hope you will too. The first relates to the rather strange goings on at the AOG (UK) conference last spring, and attempts by the AOG hierarchy to play things down.For those of you who need a brief reminder, Gerald Coates (Pioneer big-cheese and theological illiterate) participated in a meeting in which Paul Weaver (AOG big-cheese and potentially the finest management consultant on earth) was effectively raised aloft on a litter, presented to the younger men in the audience and proclaimed to be their spiritual father. If that itself didn't bear enough of an uncanny resemblance to the way mediaeval popes were treated, some water was sprinkled, likened to the dew of heaven no less, and a great reconciliation between Charismatics and Pentecostals was announced.Now that they have all sobered up, this whole sorry affair has proved to be a bit of an embarrassment _ and has led to the latest sport in discernment circles, which we call "Spot the Spin". It is quite an easy game and anyone can play. Basically, all you have to do is ask a "Christian leader" why they do such daft things, and then enjoy the way they try to wriggle out of the mess they're in. For those of you new to this, let me explain ...Regarding the antics of Coates and Weaver, Pioneer and AOG have three choices:1 _ Completely denounce Coates' and Weaver's antics.2 _ Justify them so that we can appreciate their godly agenda and apologise for being too negative.3 _ Try to play down the whole affair and hope it all blows over.One of our readers, Mr A. Lennox from Scotland, wrote to the AOG Executive to ask for an explanation and ended up exchanging a number of letters with Mr David H. Gill, who is the General Administrator of AOG (UK). This correspondence was kindly passed onto us here at CWM and we are only too pleased to make some of it public.In his second letter, Gill attempts to explain the strange antics of Weaver and Coates. Now, try to spot which one of the above three options Gill chooses ... as we play ... SPOT the SPIN:Gill: "In the context of the meeting as a whole, which I did attend, they [i.e. the antics described above] seemed to be of little relevance."Yes _ that's it folks. Number three is always the favourite choice. Oh, hang on a minute, I sense a change of direction ...Gill again _ very next sentence" "My impression of that evening was one of heartfelt reconciliation between two groups, who, in the past, had not behaved towards each other in ways that really gave glory to God. It seemed to me to be a time of spiritual significance."Instant change of tactic _ now we are on to number two. All this spin seems to be making Gill dizzy because he has just contradicted himself.First he says that the antics were of "little relevance" and then states that they were "a time of spiritual significance".How can an event of "little relevance" also be an event of "spiritual significance"? This is utter nonsense, and arises because the AOG General Administrator hasn't got the courage to speak the truth and say that the thing was at best an empty sham and at worst the final evidence that AOG has degenerated into second-class popery.It is rather sad that the AOG General Administrator is in such a mess. Rather than do the honourable thing, and take option one, he flits from option three to two, which leads to the obvious contradiction of trying to play down what he then tries to suggest is a significant event. None of this nonsense would be necessary if he simply spoke the truth and said, "Sorry guys, yes it was a load of nonsense and we will discipline those involved". But, of course, he can't criticise his boss can he?Well, the point is, that there is One who is not afraid to chastise and punish those who lead His people astray. After all, even king David was chastised when he numbered the children of Israel. So who are Coates and Weaver to think they can get away with it? And what of those who care more for their jobs than their faith, who fear men more than God? Watch and see what happens ... God will not stay His hand forever. Oh, and before our sensitive critics write in to condemn us for cursing poor old Pooh and Piglet, please bear in mind that we don't curse _ only God can do this (with any effect) ... we are simply saying that if people don't fear Him, then they eventually face the consequences. Pooh versus PigletWe thought it would be interesting to compare Gill's explanation with that of Pioneer, just to check that they are both "on message". Following the two sentences quoted above, Gill wrote:"The points of your enquiry relate to what was, in effect, a piece of drama through which a number of points were made _ dramatically. Firstly, that the young people of our Fellowship should support our General Superintendent as he seeks to lead our Fellowship in the purposes of God. Secondly, if they do this then we will all know God's blessing. The last point was that of a younger generation honouring the older generation."OK _ so it was simply drama to illustrate that the young should support Paul Weaver in order for us all to be blessed. Also, the youngsters should honour the oldies.
Let's compare this to the explanation given on the official Pioneer website:"Almost 100 youths were then asked to come and lift Paul Weaver high not as the superintendent but as a Father to the movement. Many of those on the stage were in tears as well. Gerald then picked out a young man and said that he would represent the sons and daughters of AOG refreshing the tired Isaac and Abraham generations within AOG. The young man sprinkled water on Paul Weaver who at this stage was lying on the stage. At the close of the meeting it was found out that the young man was Paul Weaver's son! `It was historic, a turning point' one AOG accredited minister explained."The first thing which strikes us about the Pioneer interpretation is the complete lack of regard for scripture. Firstly, didn't our Lord command that we are not to call people "Father"? And note the use of the capitalised F! This is popery - pure and simple. They call their pope "Father", and now Gerald Coates tells us to do the same to Paul Weaver! Secondly, what is this nonsense about the tired Isaac and Abraham generations? Is there any scriptural basis for this? Where do we read of Jacob refreshing the tired Abraham and Isaac? If anything, Jacob did the opposite. But this is the sort of mistake one expects from Pioneer ... in all honesty I've known six year olds with better theology.But what is most striking about Pioneer's explanation is how it contradicts that given by AOG General Administrator Gill. Compare the phrases that we have underlined in the two statements above.Gill understandably plays down Coates' errant "Father" proclamation, not mentioning it once in either of his letters despite two questions on this specific point from Mr Lennox. Does Gill twice decline to discuss this point because he knows that Coates went too far? And doesn't this contrast with Pioneer's website which, predictably, leaps in and makes it the main aspect of its interpretation of that evening's antics?I wonder if AOG and Pioneer are aware of this difference? Has Pooh embarrassed Piglet and made him want to distance himself from Pooh's remarks? Are Pooh and Piglet having a little tiff?One final point: Gill notes, "I suppose it could be said that this is my interpretation of what took place in that meeting. Inevitably it is subjective, as all such interpretations are, but I think it is entirely appropriate to believe the best of people."Well there you have it _ post-modernism has finally triumphed in Pentecostalism. Our meetings have become "whatever you make of them" _ subjective religion has replaced Paul's command to do all things decently and in order, so that confusion cannot enter in. I get enough post-modernism at work or as I socialise with my non-Christian colleagues and friends. Now I have to face turning up to church and trying to work out the meaning of the proceedings? To be quite honest, I'm sick of it. It is confused, pointless, empty, hyped up stupidity, which is robbing God's people of the beautiful simple faith we have received.And things will get worse. (SB) About the Author... Appeared in Issue CETF 7.2 January 2002 | ||||||||||||||
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