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Kenneth Copeland
C H A R I S M A T I C & P E N T E C O S T A L I S S U E S

by Brett Bigg

PART 3: Copeland’s ideas on Job’s FEAR, God’s FAILURE plus who is the real FATHER of ‘Torontoism’?

The Sovereignty of God

The Sovereignty of God WAS shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is... The biggest one in the whole Bible is God...I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least — that’s a big loss, man....Now, the reason you don’t think of God as a failure is He never said He’s a failure. And you’re not a failure till you say you’re one.

— “Praise-a-thon” on “Praise The Lord”, April 1988 God is on the outside looking in ... In order to have any say-so in the earth, He’s gonna have to be in agreement with a man here. — “God’s Covenant with Man II”, 1985, tape #01-4404, sd 1

Copeland’s “lost earth” doctrine is one side of a coin. The other side is God’s sovereignty (or Copeland’s theology of God’s sovereignty). For in embracing the lost earth doctrine, Copeland is boxed into a corner over his understanding of God and His sovereignty.
The deification of both man and Satan, and the demotion of God to a spectator clearly and unequivocally show that Copeland does not believe that God was, is and always will be both sovereign and Lord of, and over, all.

The LORD nullifies the counsel of the nations; He frustrates the plans of the peoples. The counsel of the LORD stands forever, The plans of His heart from generation to generation (Psalm 33:10-11).
The LORD has established His throne in the heavens, And His sovereignty rules over all (Psalm 103:19). Remember the former things long past, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me, Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, ‘My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure (Isaiah 46:9–10).
Thus says the LORD, “Heaven is My throne and the earth is My footstool. Where then is a house you could build for Me? And where is a place that I may rest? For My hand made all these things, Thus all these things came into being,” declares the LORD. “But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word” (Isaiah 66: 1-2).

One of the most misrepresented biblical persons is Job. In teaching his “faith force” doctrine, Copeland uses Job’s misfortunes to “prove” and “justify” his teachings. Copeland says (note: this is a summation in point form):

  • Job's offering of sacrifices for his children was fear based (not faith based).
  • Anything not of faith is sin.
  • Fear is faith reversed.
  • Job's fear (and fear-based actions) caused the hedge of protection to fall.
  • Job got what he said (i.e. faith, or fear, filled words coming to pass). However, if we read Job 1:1-12, in context, we make the following observations (note: this is my summation in point form):
  • Job offers sacrifices for his children, just in case they have sinned.
  • Satan presents himself before God.
  • God calls Job a blameless and upright man who fears God and shuns evil (note: contrary to Copeland's teaching that Job offered fear based sacrifices, which are sin, God calls Job blameless and upright/b>;).
  • Satan (the adversary) comments on the hedge (i.e. the blessings of God) around Job; and accuses Job of being faithful only because of the blessings.
  • Satan says, Curse Job and he will curse You.
  • God sovereignly agrees to test Job -- according to Satan's accusations.

    This is followed in Job chapter two by note: this is my summation in point form):
  • Satan presents himself before God.
  • God calls Job a “blameless and upright man who fears God and shuns evil.”
  • God acknowledges Job’s integrity and faithfulness, and that He (God) was incited by Satan) against him, to destroy him without a cause (or reason).
  • Satan (the adversary) concedes this point, but accuses Job of holding onto his integrity only because he (Job) isn’t physically/bodily cursed.
  • God sovereignly agrees to test Job, according to Satan’s accusations.
  • Though afflicted: “Job did not sin with his lips”.

All of Job’s losses had nothing to do with Job’s “fearful” acts or words. Job’s losses were divinely approved, by God, to prove the faithfulness of Job. And though Job did not sin by cursing God, he did get into trouble for exalting his own righteousness (see Job chapter 33), and for this Job repents before God (Job 42:1-6).
Despite what Copeland would like to teach, Job (in-context) is a great and terrible display of God’s sovereignty. For God blessed him and cursed him, upheld the hedge and tore it down. In all that happened to Job, God set the boundaries and God set the limits — and this when (as Copeland would teach) Satan had the authority. What rot!
The New Testament, in half a dozen places, uses the Greek word ‘despotes’ (Strong’s number 1203) in its description and/or titling of God. The word itself has been rendered, in English, as ‘master’ or ‘lord’. But it is from this Greek word that we get the English word ‘despot’. In both languages it means “an absolute ruler” (though there are obvious differences when the word is applied to man vis a vis to God).
Notice the following verses of Scripture, and the context in which the word “despot ( despotes)” is used — both pre- and postcrucifixion.

And there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon; and this man was righteous and devout, looking for the consolation of Israel; and the Holy Spirit was upon him. And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. And he came in the Spirit into the temple; and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to carry out for Him the custom of the Law, then he took Him into his arms, and blessed God, and said, “Now DESPOT (Lord), You are releasing your bond-servant to depart in peace, according to your Word” (Luke 2:25–29).
When they had been released, they went to their own companions and reported all that the chief priests and the elders had said to them. And when they heard this, they lifted their voices to God with one accord and said, “O DESPOT (Lord), it is You who MADE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM” (Acts 4:23-24).
When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O DESPOT (Lord), holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
(Revelation 6:9-10).
God is a despot: an absolute ruler. God is Sovereign. Copeland’s exaltation/deification of man impacts on one’s views and understanding of God, and subsequently people’s relationship to God, especially in prayer.
Another ‘Copelandism’ is the “demanding” nature of Word-Faith prayers: ask once then “expect” to receive thereafter. This brings with it, the removal of the sovereignty of God in regard to answering prayers, as if God doesn’t, or won’t, say, “no” or “not yet”.
In his book, “Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God”, J.I. Packer says,

“... if you are a Christian, you pray; and the recognition of God’s sovereignty is the basis of your prayers...” *1
Anyone who expects their prayers to be granted simply because they “asked in faith”, is foolish. If it is not in the will of God, God will not give it to you, or grant it. Prayer is a request, not a demand.
Man maybe a failure, but God is not. God can demand, man cannot. God is sovereign; man is not.

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the DESPOT (Master) who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep (2 Peter 2:1-3).
Also, let us consider Sodom and Gomorrah, Nineveh and Nebuchadnezzar. The people of these cities and the King of Babylon were pagan and not Jewish. They were under NO written law — NO do’s and don’ts. In the context of the incidents below, they did not curse Abraham or Israel and so they were NOT “cursed by God” — yet God did judge them. If God was not in control not in charge, did not have any authority (in the earth) then how could God judge them? But judge them He did.
Sodom and Gomorrah
The LORD said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do, since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed? For I have chosen him, so that he may command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing righteousness and justice, so that the LORD may bring upon Abraham what He has spoken about him.” And the LORD said, “The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave. I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know.” Then the men turned away from there and went toward Sodom, while Abraham was still standing before the LORD. Abraham came near and said, “Will You indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? Suppose there are fifty righteous within the city; will You indeed sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous who are in it? Far be it from You to do such a thing, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous and the wicked are treated alike. Far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth deal justly?” So the LORD said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare the whole place on their account.” And Abraham replied, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord, although I am but dust and ashes. Suppose the fifty righteous are lacking five, will You destroy the whole city because of five?” And He said, “I will not destroy it if I find forty-five there.” He spoke to Him yet again and said, “Suppose forty are found there?” And He said, “I will not do it on account of the forty.” Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak; suppose thirty are found there?” And He said, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.” And he said, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord; suppose twenty are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the twenty.” Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak only this once; suppose ten are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the ten” (Genesis 18:17–32)
Nineveh
The word of the LORD came to Jonah the son of Amittai saying, “Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and cry against it, for their wickedness has come up before Me.” Now the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying, “Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and proclaim to it the proclamation which I am going to tell you.” So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three days’ walk. Then Jonah began to go through the city one day’s walk; and he cried out and said, “Yet forty days and Nineveh will be overthrown.” Then the people of Nineveh believed in God; and they called a fast and put on sackcloth from the greatest to the least of them. When the word reached the king of Nineveh, he arose from his throne, laid aside his robe from him, covered himself with sackcloth and sat on the ashes. He issued a proclamation and it said, “In Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles: Do not let man, beast, herd, or flock taste a thing. Do not let them eat or drink water. But both man and beast must be covered with sackcloth; and let men call on God earnestly that each may turn from his wicked way and from the violence which is in his hands. Who knows, God may turn and relent and withdraw His burning anger so that we will not perish.” When God saw their deeds, that they turned from their wicked way, then God relented concerning the calamity which He had declared He would bring upon them. And He did not do it. Then the LORD said, “You had compassion on the plant for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight. Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?” (Jonah 1:1,2; 3:1– 10; 4:10–11).
Note: Only through repentance was Nineveh spared from the enacting of God’s divine judgement.
Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon
All this happened to Nebuchadnezzar the king. Twelve months later he was walking on the roof of the royal palace of Babylon. The king reflected and said, “Is this not Babylon the great, which I myself have built as a royal residence by the might of my power and for the glory of my majesty? While the word was in the king’s mouth, a voice came from heaven, saying, “King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is declared:
sovereignty has been removed from you, and you will be driven away from mankind, and your dwelling place will be with the beasts of the field. You will be given grass to eat like cattle, and seven periods of time will pass over you until you recognise that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes.” Immediately the word concerning Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled; and he was driven away from mankind and began eating grass like cattle, and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair had grown like eagles’ feathers and his nails like birds’ claws. But at the end of that period, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven and my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High and praised and honoured Him who lives forever; For His dominion is an everlasting dominion, And His kingdom endures from generation to generation. All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, But He does according to His will in the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of earth; and no one can ward off His hand or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’ At that time my reason returned to me. And my majesty and splendour were restored to me for the glory of my kingdom, and my counsellors and my nobles began seeking me out; so I was re-established in my sovereignty, and surpassing greatness was added to me. Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise, exalt and honour the King of heaven, for all His works are true and His ways just, and He is able to humble those who walk in pride.
(Daniel 4:28-37).
How could any TRUE minister claim divine inspiration of a “lost earth” doctrine, either through biblical studies or via direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, when the Sovereignty of God is so undeniably and unquestionably spelt out in Scripture?
Pentecost and the Baptism of the Spirit
Drunkenness, uncontrollable laughter, gibberish, animal noises and gestures. These have been portrayed as supposed signs of the Holy Spirit and/or the move of the Spirit since the beginning of the 1990s. The scorn and ridicule by non-believers because of such practices — especially Toronto and Pensacola — have done nothing for the Christian faith and are a blight on the church and the Kingdom of God.
In defence of these antics, Copeland and company, cite the day of Pentecost with Peter saying,

“These men are not drunk as you suppose, but this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel ... I will pour out my Spirit on all mankind” (Acts 2:15–16).
But again, let us use logic, reasoning and good sense and examine the Scriptures (emphasis added).

And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance. Now there were Jews living in Jerusalem, devout men from every nation under heaven. And when this sound occurred, the crowd came together, and were bewildered because each one of them was hearing them speak in his own language. They were amazed and astonished, saying, “Why, are not all these who are speaking Galileans? And how is it that we each hear them in our own language to which we were born? Parthians and Medes and Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs— we hear them in our own tongues speaking of the mighty deeds of God.” And they all continued in amazement and great perplexity, saying to one another, “What does this mean?” But others were mocking and saying, “They are full of sweet wine.” But Peter, taking his stand with the eleven, raised his voice and declared to them: “Men of Judea and all you who live in Jerusalem, let this be known to you and give heed to my words. For these men are not drunk, as you suppose, for it is only the third hour of the day; but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: “AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,” God says, “THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS; EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT And they shall prophesy” (Acts 2:4-18).
Notice that there are two groups people mentioned in Acts, on the Day Pentecost:
  • There were “devout men”. These devout men were “amazed and astonished” and said, “We hear them in our own tongues speaking the mighty deeds of God”. These devout men asked, “What does this mean?”
  • And there were “others”. The others, in contrast to the devout men, were “mocking” and saying, “They are full sweet wine.”

      Those “speaking in tongues” were not speaking gibberish. They were speaking known languages of the people from around the African, Middle-Eastern and Mediterranean regions: “Parthians and Medes and Elamites, and residents Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs”. While the “others” were making comparisons, Peter was making contrasts, and these contrasts can be seen in other Scriptures.

      Therefore be careful how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, making the most of your time, because the days are evil. So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord; always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father; and be subject to one another in the fear of Christ (Ephesians 5:15–21).
      But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practise such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit (Galatians 5:16-25).

      Walking by the Spirit is not a comparison by similitude, but a comparison by contrast with walking in the flesh. Walking in the flesh includes “drunkenness” with all its outward actions; whereas Walking in the Spirit is “self-control”. I must reiterate that the Scriptures say “self-control” and not “out-of-control”. Has our understanding of the English language become so distorted that when Paul says, “These are in opposition to one another” we read that they must be ‘similar’ to one another? It is because people listen to the likes of Copeland, with his “ Believers are not to be led by logic. We are not to be led by logic. We are not even to be led by good sense”, that many buy into this sort of thing.
      In the early 1990’s Rodney Howard- Browne ministered at a Kenneth Copeland Convention. The following is a transcript of part of a meeting in which Kenneth Copeland called Howard-Browne to the platform. Richard M. Riss in his History of the Revival of 1993-1995 (7th edition) refers to this with some slight modifications:
      Copeland: Here Rodney, in the name of Jesus [speaking in tongues] now when you get up here there’ll be a message from the Lord ... there’ll be a message from the Lord on your heart I want you to deliver it [to] them.
      Howard-Browne: This is the day, this is the hour, saith the Lord, that I am moving in this earth. This is the day that I’ll cause you to step over into the realm of the supernatural. For many have preached, and it’s been prophesied of old and said there was a move coming. But oh, it’s even now and even at the door. For the drops of rain are beginning to fall to the glory of God. Yes, yes, many of you that have sat on the threshold and have said, ‘Oh God, when should it be?’ Oh you know that this is the day and this is the hour that you’ll step over into that place into my glory. For this is the day of the glory of the Lord coming in great power.
      [Speaking in tongues] For I’m going to break the mould, saith the Lord, on many of your lives and many of your ministries. ... Rise up this day and be filled afresh with the new wine of the Holy Ghost. Rise up this day and oh [tongues], to drink, to drink, to drink, to drink, to drink, to drink, to drink, to drink, to drink [speaking in tongues]. We drink [speaking in tongues] [laughter], oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah; we don’t worry about what other people think. No, aha, it doesn’t matter what they think. Ha, ha, ha, ho, ooh [speaking in tongues].
      Copeland: [Addresses Howard-Browne with gestures and speaking in tongues] Howard-Browne: [Replies to Copeland in tongues, and they have a “conversation” “in tongues”.] [The conversation “in tongues” was apparently humorous because Copeland and then Howard-Browne laugh.]
      Later, both Howard-Browne and Copeland “ministered” to another minister who himself, later, prophesied. Ken Copeland said: “Take a deep drink. Take a deep drink of the Holy Ghost.” Rodney Browne then laughed, and the man fell down to the floor. Kenneth Copeland then spoke in tongues. Later the unidentified minister “prophesied”:
      Unidentified Minister: [Tongues] My people, my people, after Calvar y got nothing out of religion. And the Holy Ghost came because they got nothing out of religion. Well, you silly thing. Well you silly goose. What will you get out of religion? For the Jews got nothing out of religion after Calvary. So let it go. Release religion. Cast that garment off. [The audience started cheering, which gradually increased with following statements] Enter into the fullness of the Holy Ghost. For it is being outpoured, right now, even as it was on Pentecost. It is happening in this place, this moment at this time, saith the Lord.
      Copeland: [Tongues] Unidentified Minister: Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look saith the Lord. Cloven tongues. Look, look, look, cloven tongues like as of fire. Look, look, look saith the Lord. It is happening right now. ‘When will Pentecost [come]?’ It is happening right now. ‘When will the outpour[ing come]?’ It is happening right now. Feel, feel, feel, feel, feel the wind, the wind, the wind, the wind is blowing. Yes, yes, yes, cloven tongues like as of fire. Yes, yes, see, see the glory. See the shekinah. You are in the midst of angels. You are in the midst of the shekinah cloud. You are in the midst of the fire. For the glory of the Lord has descended, and you are beholding, yes, yes, you are beholding my face. You are seeing into the Spirit realm. Yes. Now you are seeing clearly into the spirit realm. See, see, behold, yes, my father sees what you see. Yes, the angels are seeing what you are seeing. Oh, oh, it is good. Look, look, says the Lord. Look, look, look, look, look into the realms. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, you are moving into the realm [tongues]. You are moving higher into the Spirit realm. You are being lifted like, your are being lifted, into the realm of the dynamics of the revelation knowledge of God. See, yes, hear, hear the word of the Lord. Hear it. Hear the voice of the word of the Lord. Yes. Hear the voice of the word of the Lord in the Spirit. It is talking to you now...”
      “Thus saith the Lord”, is used plentifully in the above incident. Now, if the Lord did “say” then everybody in the body of Christ should listen. But if the Lord did NOT “say” then Copeland, Howard-Browne and the other “ministers” there are false prophets — and are not to be listened to, let alone followed. Let us test what the “Holy Spirit” supposedly said through the above prophecies with Scripture.
      Tongues During the meeting Kenneth Copeland addressed Howard-Browne with gestures whilst speaking in tongues. What transpired was an animated conversation between the pair — all ‘in tongues’ — with the audience being very amused and either laughing themselves or cheering.
      WHAT DO THE SCRIPTURES TEACH?
      If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints (1 Corinthians 14:27-33).
      If, as New Testament Christians, we believe that the New Testament (which includes Paul’s first Letter to the Corinthians) is Scripture — that is, inspired of the Holy Spirit; then where is “judgement passed” in regards to the validity and correctness of the prophecies? Does cheering and clapping validate tongues, and/ or prophecy? A conversation in “tongues” does not bring anything but confusion.
      The Holy Spirit
      “And the Holy Ghost came because they got nothing out of religion.”

      The Holy Spirit came because, “they got nothing out of religion”? The “holy spirit” in this prophecy speaks contrary to Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.

      Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world (James 1:27).

      But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me; and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you
      (John 16:7-15).
      The “Glory” of God
      Yes, yes, see, see the glory. See the shekinah. You are in the midst of angels. You are in the midst of the shekinah cloud. You are in the midst of the fire. For the glory of the Lord has descended, and you are beholding, yes, yes, you are beholding my face. You are seeing into the Spirit realm. Yes. Now you are seeing clearly into the spirit realm. See, see, behold, yes, my father sees what you see. Yes, the angels are seeing what you are seeing.

      “See, see the glory”. Rather than the solemnity of the majesty, righteousness and holiness of God that WOULD be present with the glory of God (i.e. the Shekinah), the ongoing laughter and staggering around like drunkards shows that Copeland, Howard-Browne and other “ministers” are anything but familiar with God, his presence and his Glory. The Old Testament shows that when the glory of God (i.e. the Shekinah) was present, the people couldn’t stand to minister, let alone stagger like drunkards. Furthermore Revelation shows that even the saints in heaven will be unable to stand (i.e. enter and minister) when the presence of God is manifested in the same way.

      It happened that when the priests came from the holy place, the cloud filled the house of the LORD, so that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD (1 Kings 8:10-11).

      And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God and from His power; and no one was able to enter the temple until the seven plagues of the seven angels were finished
      (Revelation 15:8).
      Furthermore, this prophecy if it was from God should have said, “you see what my father sees” and not “my father sees what you see”, for God sees all. Likewise, “the angels are seeing what you are seeing” should be “you are seeing what the angels see”, for they, not we are in the “Spirit Realm”.
      Animal Antics
      One of the most shameful characteristics of Pensacola and the “Toronto Blessing”, both of which Copeland endorses as being of God, is the animal antics. It should be noted that in contrast to this “manifestation of the Holy Spirit”, God granted higher intelligence to a donkey for faithfulness, and lower intelligence to a man in judgement.

      When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, she lay down under Balaam; so Balaam was angry and struck the donkey with his stick. And the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, “What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?” Then Balaam said to the donkey, “Because you have made a mockery of me! If there had been a sword in my hand, I would have killed you by now.” The donkey said to Balaam, “Am I not your donkey on which you have ridden all your life to this day? Have I ever been accustomed to do so to you?” And he said, “No.” Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way with his drawn sword in his hand; and he bowed all the way to the ground. The angel of the LORD said to him, “Why have you struck your donkey these three times? Behold, I have come out as an adversary, because your way was contrary to me. But the donkey saw me and turned aside from me these three times. If she had not turned aside from me, I would surely have killed you just now, and let her live (Numbers 22:27-33).
      The king reflected and said, ‘Is this not Babylon the great, which I myself have built as a royal residence by the might of my power and for the glory of my majesty?’ While the word was in the king’s mouth, a voice came from heaven, saying, “King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is declared: sovereignty has been removed from you, and you will be driven away from mankind, and your dwelling place will be with the beasts of the field. You will be given grass to eat like cattle, and seven periods of time will pass over you until you recognise that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes.” Immediately the word concerning Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled; and he was driven away from mankind and began eating grass like cattle, and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair had grown like eagles’ feathers and his nails like birds’ claws. But at the end of that period, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven and my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High and praised and honoured Him who lives forever; For His dominion is an everlasting dominion, And His kingdom endures from generation to generation (Daniel 4:30-34).

      Anyone that is queuing up to Rodney Howard-Browne to get a “drink of the Holy Spirit” is deluded. Howard-Browne is not God’s ‘bar tender’ and neither is the supposed prophet and teacher Copeland led by the Spirit. The Fruit of the Spirit is “self-control”. The “fruit” Copeland is eating is obviously so past ‘being ripe’ that it is fermenting!
      We must note here that Copeland’s acknowledgment of Howard-Browne gave credibility to his ministry — in Word of Faith circles. In effect Copeland authenticated or legitimised this “move of the spirit”, and the “anointing” on Howard-Browne. So who is the real Father of ‘Torontoism’? Howard- Browne is its mouthpiece, but Copeland is its approving father.
      Today, just as on the Day of Pentecost, the “others” and not the “devout men” are mocking and saying, “They are full of sweet wine. They are drunk”.

      NEXT: Part 4 – KENNETH COPELAND
      More Heresies & Blasphemies. Also author Brett Bigg tells how he came to leave the Word-Faith Movement

      NOTES:
      * 1 Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God © J.I. Packer - Intervarsity Fellowship (IVF) Sep 1967 – p 11

      You can contact Brett Brigg by email brett@bvov.net.
      Website (www.bvov.net).



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      Appeared in CETF 28 2004
      "...contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" -- Jude v3


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